I could have sworn trucking companies, esp the US govts black ops semis, have their own dedicated GPS network and receivers. They're not going to use these.

Can the unit firmware be loaded to a streetpilot 7200??

When will it be available

Testing the system with the 2010 map, some speed limits indication is a bit off but for trucks, this should not be to be an issue.
Nice unit, could use larger display

Has anybody done a review on PC Miler Co-Pilot Laptop 11?
I've been using it about 6 months. I like it. It's not prefect but works for me. I run the software on my laptop. I don't like the laptop running all the time. PC Miler also has the same software in a GPS unit. Which is the better one? Garmin Nuvi 465T or Co-Pilot.

Will my MSN cord work so I can get the msn info?

How in the world can you have a rating for this unit when it isn't even out yet?

Does it have state weigh scale locations? I have a Nuvi 660 and it tells me my speed, direction, total, moving & stopped time plus eta. Does the 465T have these features. Can I export my favorites to the 465T? It has taken me a long time to gather all this info.

"Will my MSN cord work so I can get the msn info?"

NO

In the beginning (2. fig2) it states "FM traffic receiver with 12/24 volt power cable" but at 3. fig28 it says "12v Vehicle Power Adapter", which is it????

This is vital as old trucks only has 24V, I dont like the dashboard mount. Hinders private purchase to use in work or in several trucks/private car. Big fail.

Does anyone know for sure if the 765 can handle 24V input power? The garmin tech specs are worthless, input voltage and avoidances is not stated for their models.

The old c310 or c330 i used worked fine for me using 24V.

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue using the 12/24V power outlet. Since these are being sold into fire departments and they also have 24 volts.
I'm not a trucker, but I thought the engine starter uses 24 volts but the lights and everything else like the radio, wiper motor etc all pretty much still use 12 volt power does it not? You can measure your voltage at the power port to see if it is putting out 12 volts or not, but my bet is it would be putting out 12 volts.
You should be fine with the Trucker Garmin Nuvi 465T GPS.
Good Luck

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue using the 12/24V power outlet. Since these are being sold into fire departments and they also have 24 volts.
I'm not a trucker, but I thought the engine starter uses 24 volts but the lights and everything else like the radio, wiper motor etc all pretty much still use 12 volt power does it not? You can measure your voltage at the power port to see if it is putting out 12 volts or not, but my bet is it would be putting out 12 volts.
You should be fine with the Trucker Garmin Nuvi 465T GPS.
Good Luck

I'm pretty sure there will be no issue using the 12/24V power outlet. Since these are being sold into fire departments and they also have 24 volts.
I'm not a trucker, but I thought the engine starter uses 24 volts but the lights and everything else like the radio, wiper motor etc all pretty much still use 12 volt power does it not? You can measure your voltage at the power port to see if it is putting out 12 volts or not, but my bet is it would be putting out 12 volts.
You should be fine with the Trucker Garmin Nuvi 465T GPS.
Good Luck

I just looked on Amazon, and the 465t release has moved from 6/10 to 6/28.

Autonavdirect have the 465T listed on their website

Loves Truckstops have them stock 499.99$ do buy at 499$ or wait? My 780 cost me 700$ last spring and now its less then 500$

****** NOTE TO CANADIAN TRUCKERS ******

This GPS does not have Canadian trucking data installed. Navteq is currently working on Canadian trucking data. It will not be available until the 4th quarter of 2009, and will be a free upload.

How did you find out about the update Dan?

I am a Drive that works in the New York and Boston reagons I have used the 465T real world this week in Long Island Ny and in the Boston area. While I am still learning all the bells and wistles. I take some issue with the way it routes you . haveing to make unnessery turns. Alos the HASMAT routes.are off the wall.I drive HASMAT and it would not direct me to routes that we use every day I sure hope that they clean up the Hasmat in the next update.But it will get you there.I will use it for a few more weeks and get back to you

Yeah, I found some issues but also, but nothing that can't be corrected and if I know Garmin, they are already working on it.
The unit over all is much better than the normal Nuvi for normal vehicles but is not perfect yet.

so far its ok. ive noticed it truly doent route you around nontruck routes. just pops up a warning. also i dont see lane assist how does that work? i wish it notify us about rest areas like it does for scale houses. how old is the ntts stuff? wish there was a dedicated list for major truck stops like loves, pilot, petro etc. i just uploaded my old poi file for those.

Gatorguy - I emailed Garmin and made a few inquiries. Nice people it seems over there.

Order mine today at Amazon.com $447 + 11.97 two days delivery.
No tax, you can get free shipping but got to wait for it. They only have 5 in stock, now I believe 4.

I just got the 465T and its better than the other two "Truck" GPS Units. The WorldNav 7" is great if you want a big screen. You can see the route clear as day from the sleeper. The BIG con to the WorldNav is that the it routes you the long way, has unneeded turns, can't find addresses, HazMat is all screwed up.
The PCMiler a few of us in the company got this piece of junk. All of us have had it crash on us and keep sending back to the company for repairs. It can't find addresses that every other mapping software (or site) can locate. All milage is displayed as Air Miles until it's calculated the route.
The Nuvi so far has located every address I have entered. A con is that I can't find all businesses. I look for a Pilot or a TA and I expect to get one that I passed 5 miles back and get one listed 125 miles away. That doesn't help me. The traffic alert is a great asset and you are paying attention. So are the warnings of sharp turns and upcoming steep grades. It will also give you a warning to upcoming scale houses. All I need now is locations of CAT scales which the PCMiler had in it's POI. However, the 465T has listing of repair and roadside that PCMiler did not have.

The speakers on all of these are not worth anything you can't hear them. The Blue Tooth in the 465T and WorldNav is a waste. You may hear the caller but the mic in the system isn't good enough for them to hear you. You sound like your in a wind tunnel to the other person.

I would go with the 465T if you want a good dash mount truck GPS. It's not perfect yet but it's better than the other two popular systems out there. The best bang for your buck computer based GPS for laptops is ProMiles. You get daily updates on fuel prices.

Hope this little comment helps those looking at the systems that are out there.

i bought the nuvi on or around June 10. this GPS is a total failure. i m a OTR driver and tested this 465 for about a month over the road: not all weight station listed or miles off, driving on 79/76 PA on the wrong side of the road,guiding you 50 to a 120 miles longer to your destination, instead of saying 3 says 9 instead, crashes at least once a day,guides you trough weight restricted streets once your are in your are in, the only good is the NTTS listing which helped me twice so far, but i could have bought me the book or downloaded the software which would have been cheaper overall. This peace of $%&# is not worse the money and if i would not had my second GPS Unit (which is not a trucking unit) i would be still driving long miles instead of good miles as garmin promise on that Nuvi 465.
i told the Drivers i met what kind of peace that Unit is, so that they don't have to spend the money as i did.this will be the last time i will buy me a garmin

Well I brought the 465T. I've only have had it a couple days.
Major problem so far is the dash mount. I can't and won't use the permanent disk. The temporary disk is a gooey mess and the GPS unit is too heavy for it. It should of came with suction cup mount. It keeps falling.

As for mountining on the dash per fed. Regulations nothing can b mounted on the windshield unless u there's a waiver. Any for a couple bucks pu a garmin windshield mount. I'm having rebooteding issues when it recaculates.notice like in nc on i40 in the gorge the curve sign doesn't appear but as soon as I cross into Tn the curve sign appears. Also how hold is the ntts indo? Doesn't seem very accurate.

To be clear, there IS NO regulation that prohibits windshield mountings. Their is a restriction as to WHERE a mount may be installed, with the addendum that it cannot obstruct the drivers vision. The full FMCSR regualation is found in 393.60(E)(1)

Is there a website a person can get pois of the major truckstop?

I guess I'm different from a lot of the truckers posting here. I only use a GPS as part of my navigation tool bag. I still use my atlas to look at the route that is suggested by the GPS, and if there looks to be a shorter way, then I'll adjust the route to the GPS by adding a waypoint. Once my GPS agrees with me, and ONLY then, do I put the truck in motion. I know I can then depend on the GPS to direct me on my route.

I do the same with the 465t. I don't care if it shows me a route that is different, or appears different, from what I think or know is a shorter route; I will add a waypoint to straighten out the routing. What I want is accurate determinations of restricted routes, hazmat issues on route, the lane to be in when approaching an exit, etc. The 465t does this better than any other commercial GPS system out there. The truck stop and weight station info. is spotty. But my atlas lets me identify where the weigh stations are, and I plug that as a waypoint. I still use my truck stop locator book to deal with finding a stop that I want.

Producing the 465t had to be an extremely challenging project. It would be nice to have a system that will let you just plug in an address and have all the data variables work perfectly to get me to my destination. But I never expected the 465t to be able to do that. If it did, I would have been absolutely surprised and amazed. I will bet that Garmin will have updates coming soon. And more in the future. For now, the one question I asked myself is this: 'does the 465t add to my productivity as a driver, or does it not.' My answer is an emphatic, 'yes'. I found it to be worth the price of admission, and I am looking forward to the updates as they come available.

For those who would like to take the time to help Garmin produce a great product, please get on the Garmin website and provide specific feedback on the 465t. Identify specific things that Garmin can do to make the product better. This will help us all in the long and short run ot have the kind of GPS system that does what it needs to do.

im in the same boat i dont give my gps total control its a tool i use it alongside my atlas.. i do love lane assist that works good i was in kcmo today it was amazing.. only if the could get a update to fix the rebooting issue

im in the same boat i dont give my gps total control its a tool i use it alongside my atlas.. i do love lane assist that works good i was in kcmo today it was amazing.. only if the could get a update to fix the rebooting issue

I'm really looking forward to using this unit. Im switching to a carrier that does alot of hazmat work and the hazmat routing will really help ease the associated anxiety. My shop will love me having the NTTS listings aboard the truck and the "where am i" feature will really help when locating the truck for roadside, towing, filling out my logs, etc.

One strong suggestion Garmin:
Under "avoidances", add "state weigh stations". Its sad but running overweight is unavoidable sometimes.

I have the pc miler laptop, pc miler portable mount gps navigator, and an old garmin 330, that actually offers a "truck routing" option. I like the 330 the best for its reliable and convenient touch screen menu interface, and it's actually loud enough to hear. It's about useless for finding truck stops, weigh stations, CAT scales, and will definitely get you in trouble in east coast cities and elsewhere with height, weight and Hazmat restrictions, but for an OTR driverI find it's routing algorithm very reliable. 95%+ of the time I can run a route like it tells me to. Fave locations are easy to store & rename, and are listed back to me in order of proximity to my current location. If Garmin could actually put all it's truck routing features from the 465T in this little gem it would be all I could ask for.
My only other major complaint of the 330 is that it does lose satellite reception several times a month for minutes at a time.
What I also really like about it is that it has a resettable trip feature that tells me how far and long Ive driven today, how much time in stationary position Ive spent. Rolling and overall mph average, miles to destination and appx. ETA if within 24 hours nonstop driving distance. It's also super easy to plot a stop point en route, but only 1, like a Walmart or Hiway rest area. If I lost my old 330 Id be upset, but I wouldn't miss the other 2 at all.
I'd be happy to be a beta tester for Garmin anytime, in exchange for a free unit.

I drive OTR for one of the largest refer operators in the country. My primary objective in using any GPS is to cover the "last 6 turns," so to speak. The 465t does that just fine, but...

It does NOT trip-plan like a trucker. I can NOT look up the nearest commercial scale. I can NOT insert truck stops along my route by their intersection on highways, e.g. Wyoming/I80/x310 should pop a choice for the Petro or Pilot. It does not show roadside rest stops in any way that I can figure out (we like them as a quieter/cheaper/less fattening alternative to most truck stops).

Mine seems to freak over the Ambassador Bridge. When trying to route from Fort Wayne to Brampton, ON, the unit insisted on routing me way around the lake thru Buffalo instead of a strait shot up I75 thru Detroit. AND it warm-resetted at least 5 times after I forced the Ambassador.

Finally, both the registration and all updates can only be performed on WinXP or Vista. That's just dumb. At this late date, Garmin ought to be doing this with OS-independent tech thru browsers, whether MacOS, Linux or Windows. My notebook runs Win2k.

Don't bother to get tech support on their phone line. The wait is always over 30 minustes, which I think is just useless to a professional driver.

I have had the same issues wiith re-booting when the unit

I have both the Nuvi 465T and the Nuvi 660. The Nuvi 660 does a much better job of routing a truck when set for "Truck" than the 465T. The 660 reduces out-of-route miles.

I have both the Nuvi 465T and the Nuvi 660. The Nuvi 660 does a much better job of routing a truck when set for "Truck" than the 465T. The 660 reduces out-of-route miles.

I purchased the 465 about two weeks ago and started having a problem with the Garmin turning itself off and restarting again by itself, so I returned it to the store thinking that I had purchased one that had a faulty power supply that slipped through your QC dept. But when I power up the second Garmin 465 it started doing the same thing only worse. I would turn it on and it would power down, then load the maps, then bring up the agreement not to use it while driving, then it would power down and start all over again. Five times in a row it did this, so I took it and banged it against the window a couple of times and haven't had a problem with it since. You either have a problem with your design in the power board or your Quality Control personnel really sucks.

Hehehe. I could have saved yall 540 bux. But I drive, and no time for typing like this. On a 34. The 465t sucks. I love all the heralds from drivers who don't use all the features. "When I drive down the road it shows me where I'm at!!!"... Please. I appreciate the impromptu rerouting. I don't trust the route clearance info. And FYI, God you guys and your 'map fetish'. The maps are wrong also. Don't trust ANYTHING. Keep watching the signs and the bridges. The only thing that works 100 percent of the time is Google maps but it doesn't support trucks and isn't realtime. It also has real road construction data so you won't get routed over a road with 'emergency demolition'. Heh, I don't trust it either. Just a note, in the future, wait a while before saying something is the latest and greatest. I had my unit long before you guys got yours because it has been out a long time ago, you just have to stumble on the right person (and I do mean stumble:))

If you "had yours a long time ago", replete with your verbal wink, wink alluding to an undertone that someone from Garmin gave one to you way before public release, please give us details.

Myself ive owned the Garmin nuvi 660 and hands down garmin is the leader. I have a friend that has a Tomtom and always hear about not getting signals!? I am getting into the trucking industry myself and plan on purchasing the 465t. In the 2 plus years ive had a Garmin i have seen big improvements with there updates excellent company customer service is topnotch. So no doubt that this unit will see big improvements in the near future. Thought id share my experience with you guys!

I'll stick with my nuvi660(3 years strong so far) until a trucking gps offers fm transmitter or a 3.5 mm jack for mp3 or handsfree calling. This doesn't have either and the people with them that I've asked say the speakers just can't overcome the background noise of the truck when paired with their phones for handsfree. I payed $650 for the nuvi660 when they came out, so it's not the price. It's just that i've grown accustomed to these features and won't go without them. As far as routing the same people say it works great, even a flatbed driver says changing height from 13'6 to 12' changed his route accordingly for overpasses in the chicago area, so kudos on that aspect to garmin. So add those features and $50 or $100 to the price and i'll buy. I'll recoup on the fuel and time saved. Which is exactly what the 660 has done thus far.

Sorry for posting twice, but as far as scales, rest areas, truck stops/travel centers, geocaches near interstates or any other interest. I load them directly to custom poi's.

I own a nuvi360 and it has a truck setting on it. I am a LTL driver and do most of new york state as well as all of ontario canada. The 360 has its own problems but you must use common sense. I am in the market for a new GPS and am not sure which unit to buy? I want the PC Miler for a lap top but have heard nothing good about it. I agree with most of the drivers here.... use your atlas as well as your GPS...the only problem is that it dont give you city streets, so you need to purchase a shit load of city maps....NOT. For now I will rely on my garmin nuvi 360 and it has done a great job so far

I use nuvi 750 i drive in the US & canada, it work fine for me. you have to use common sense,it help me when i got lost, trucker

I have read all the current posts and am impressed with the variety of experiences, as well as completely discouraged with the prospect of getting a 465t. I'd really looked forward to unboxing one and sticking onto the dashboard of my truck and being forevermore guided unerringly to my destination totally unconcerned about taking an unauthorized hazmat route. I pull a chemical tanker and I guess I'll continue to rely on previous driver's directions from the Qualcomm, a phone call to the shipper/receiver, a new atlas and my iPhone's Google Maps app, which has in the past year been wrong with the directions ONE time. I knew a chemical plant couldn't possibly be in a residential area, so I solved that problem by simply tapping the satellite view which showed me the receiver so well I could count the cars in the parking lot, overlaid the map and, waLa, I drove right to it, the little blue dot pinging the way. The app will give me the map, satellite or terrain view, live traffic in metro areas, and current location to destination time and miles. There is no software to download, it uses Google Maps, FM traffic and is free. You can zoom in or out, and it is compatible with Google Earth. The catch(es) are that you must have a 3G iPhone and be in a 3G envirionment for it to work effectively. Edge will run it, but much slower. Therfore you must be in a major metro area for the speed. You also get an iPod and internet connectivity with all that in the 3G iPhone. And a telephone.
Your pertinent reviews and evaluations just saved me 500 bucks, so I hope this post helps some of you.

Well, after reading these comments this 22yr CDL holder has come to a conclusion.

There seems to be no substitute for an up to date Rand McNally commercial atlas, a good pair of "Trucker eyes" to spot those truck related road signs, and a telephone (cell or otherwise) to call the shipper/receiver and ask for directions. Most Shippers/Receivers have the directions to the facility available on there answering system at the push of a button anyway. I guess I'll be "old school" till the end.

Now where is the nearest chrome shop... I seem to have an extra 500 bucks to spend! LOL

have you tested the Rand McNally intelliRoute TND 500? it seems to be ok unit what i read.

Thanks for all the input. I will just keep my NUVI 660 on the truck setting and drive on. Now that I still have $500.00 in my pocket. I'll just upgrade to a $50.00 Laminated Rand McNally and dry erase markers. Remember the person in the driver seat is responsible not the tools that are used.

Any1 tested the Rand McNally intelliRoute TND 500

I Have been using MS Streets and Trips 2007 ($40) and was really excited to get this 465t. What a let down! The notifications for scales and curves etc. are so spotty and inaccurate what good is it? If I add this unit to the MS Streets and Trips with GPS which routes I can easily change according to the customer directions etc., I finally have an accurate route. The Garmin needs to be much more refined before it will be what I hoped for for $500.

i drove for a company delivering food, like wendy's, etc. and when you get around NYC this thing is useless, also sometimes loses satellite signal for no apparent reason. i was disappointed being a new trucker using this unit, luckily i had a keen eye for where i wasn't allowed to be. I also had to beg my dispatchers for decent directions.